tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post2914422842511361833..comments2023-10-30T02:03:47.513-07:00Comments on Clinical Psychology and Psychiatry: A Closer Look: Seroquel, Haldol, and The Full Court Media PressCL Psychhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13990549972520745769noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-35625721343716106892009-03-23T22:16:00.000-07:002009-03-23T22:16:00.000-07:00TF wrote:"Psychiatrists are lame until proven...TF wrote:<BR/><BR/>"Psychiatrists are lame until proven otherwise, and I can say that as I am one, but I hope not lame."<BR/><BR/>Though I can understand on some level the frustration and emotion involved in the scope of TF's views. I also must admit I am pleasantly surprised/impressed with the way TF has changed in his opinions and outlook as far as psychiatry goes. <BR/><BR/>TF you are on the inside looking out. I believe a little less bravado and just a little bit more staying on message will get you a lot more ears listening and agreeing with you from the professional end anywise. <BR/><BR/>You are in a good position to be a voice of professional reasoning and change. I would only ask you walk a little softer, as well as carrying that big stick with some prudence.<BR/><BR/>I sure wish you would have been this candid and honest with your awakening when you were at FS posting.<BR/><BR/>I entered Carlat’s comment section after reading his apologetic stance on Biederman to find out if he was really for substantial change in psychiatry or just walking the fence in the usual patronizing fashion psychiatry tends to do. <BR/><BR/>His answers and avoidance of them was quite alarming; since without coming out openly and bluntly saying he is agreeing with Biederman's use of preschool age children and the use of dangerous anti-psychotics in that population.<BR/><BR/>He ardently agrees with Biederman's methods and science as being sound in spite of the fact that Biederman had protocol lapses that were not reported six times in his renowned preschool age study; as well as stating what the results would be before even doing the study surely at J&J’s beckoning.<BR/><BR/>That leaves open a whole lot of wiggle room and openings for the old Harvard hanky panky and big unreported bucks in his pocket game. I don’t believe children are games or lab rats to be tempered with for greed or status at any level; but especially in what is supposed to be a respected and ethical medical profession. <BR/><BR/>Carlat also implies he is bought into the Child Bipolar paradigm with the assumed use of anti-psychotics in preschool age children. <BR/><BR/>That pretty much sealed the deal as far as knowing what side of the fence he is really walking on. I guess once your an indoctrinated MGH Harvard Doctor; your always part of the clan/family so to speak. <BR/><BR/>Personally, I would more often than not stay away from Nazi death camp doctor references in general in relating to the current events in Pharma and Psychiatry. Carlat has brought this one up himself, and left the door wide open for rebuke. <BR/><BR/>Quoting Carlat from the comment section of his Blog:<BR/><BR/>"Hi fans and ex-fans,<BR/><BR/>The point of the post was to say that there are some things Biederman is guilty of, and some things he isn't. Narcissism, egotism, greed? Yep. Fraud, perpetrator of evil, creator of pediatric bipolar disorder, impetus for all psychiatrists who have ever prescribed too many antipsychotics? Of course not. This is not Dr. Mengele. And anyone who wants to go to pubmed and read his clinical trials will actually find that they are, for the most part very well done and written up fairly without exaggerating positive findings or downplaying side effects. Bipolar disorder does, in fact, occur in children, whether you call in bipolar or conduct disorder or juvenile delinquency. And it is clear that antipsychotics moderate the behavior, though at the cost of significant side effects. Welcome to medicine, a world where there are no perfect solutions to many challenging problems.<BR/><BR/>It's time to stop blaming Biederman for all of psychiatry's failings and for all of the evils of the pharmaceutical industry. Let's put our energies into something more productive--like coming up with solutions for how to appropriately work with industry without doing their marketing for them."<BR/><BR/>Dr. Carlat is right! This is not Dr. Mengele since he is dead, a remembered dark chapter in history, and long past thankfully.<BR/> <BR/>Biederman is in fact very much alive, still practicing medicine, collecting a fat pay check, still feeling like he's on top of the world and second in line to God almighty.<BR/><BR/>Biederman has set a professional standard in the industry, is the dark voice of child psychiatry, its most adamant spokesperson, and is still personally feeding preschool age kids powerful anti-psychotic drugs to this day. <BR/><BR/>Not just for child bipolar mind you: but also for ADHD and other behavioral disorders. A whopping 4000% increase over the past decade in children including preschool age.<BR/><BR/>The difference is quite clear; we stopped the Nazi's and declared we would never let atrocities like that happen again. Yet today we are allowing the same type of crimes to happen for greed and omnipotent professor status. Only this time around in the name of science and medicine; yet the vastness of the victimization has not changed really all that much if you see and imagine the decades of damage to come.<BR/><BR/>I have been reading this site, am impressed with the quality of content, and integrity of information posted here.<BR/><BR/>I am sad to say there seems to be no end to this corruption and madness anytime soon.<BR/><BR/>Thank You,<BR/><BR/>StanAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08682484589058747783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-34526458864797679172009-03-23T20:47:00.000-07:002009-03-23T20:47:00.000-07:00Hey CP, Great article esp your "note to key opinio...Hey CP, Great article esp your "note to key opinion leaders".<BR/><BR/>Stephanysoulful sepulcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12271584927611299868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-439060755777126342009-03-23T09:11:00.000-07:002009-03-23T09:11:00.000-07:00I was unsure whether laughter or tears was a more ...I was unsure whether laughter or tears was a more appropriate reaction to the Seroquel branding on the poster...CL Psychhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13990549972520745769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-34504045818431761672009-03-21T11:29:00.000-07:002009-03-21T11:29:00.000-07:00Great job!Have you noticed the subtle Seroquel bra...Great job!<BR/><BR/>Have you noticed the subtle Seroquel branding on the poster!?<BR/><BR/>I think we know who did all the work preparing this!!insiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16046281532123990259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-69353551748104887292009-03-20T18:49:00.000-07:002009-03-20T18:49:00.000-07:00Nice job, CL. And, to your end comment about advi...Nice job, CL. And, to your end comment about advising KOLs to pay heed to the risks, you are howling into the wind. Just look at what FS and Carlat have reported about the good ol boy Bierderman and each blog's different conclusion to it. I am very disappointed Dr Carlat seemed to defend this Nazi-type charlatan, and I know that reference annoys some readers, so I am glad I got your attention.<BR/><BR/>As this crap just escalates, so will I, but I will try to keep it respectable enough to allow the blog authors to print my comments. I apologize for my March 12 comment at an earlier post for the f-word, but the rest I stand by fully. Psychiatrists are lame until proven otherwise, and I can say that as I am one, but I hope not lame.<BR/><BR/>Glad you posted finally! Thought you cashed in or something in that vein!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-80342263870935283962009-03-20T17:58:00.000-07:002009-03-20T17:58:00.000-07:00As a person who has had Haldol, some of these sado...As a person who has had Haldol, some of these sado-masochists masquerading as Doctor's make me sick. The son of a bitch probably never made anything too clear to the poor bastard that was strapped down while he administered the hypodermic to his latest guinea pig. They know absolutely nothing about some of these mental illnesses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com