tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post7469999337295800838..comments2023-10-30T02:03:47.513-07:00Comments on Clinical Psychology and Psychiatry: A Closer Look: Say Hello to Temper Dysregulation Disorder with DysphoriaCL Psychhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13990549972520745769noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-89268207373200694312010-12-28T11:52:26.057-08:002010-12-28T11:52:26.057-08:00Yet another parent here ... four children, one of ...Yet another parent here ... four children, one of which is (currently) diagnosed with Mood Disorder NOS. <br /><br />The other three respond to normal parenting. She doesn't. "Simple" as that.<br /><br />Smug dismissals - "wow, a diagnosis for temper tantrums?" - are just kicking people who are down. Blaming parents ... well, that's practically sadism, or would be, if those doing it knew what they were doing.<br /><br />This condition - and it is a condition, no matter what you call it - is so far beyond normal ... it's indescribable. If you try to describe it, people try to fit what you are saying into what they know. But it's so far beyond what they know, they don't or won't hear it.holmegmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-68581474480288863892010-06-28T13:03:21.653-07:002010-06-28T13:03:21.653-07:00Whether its Early Onset Bipolar or some other labe...Whether its Early Onset Bipolar or some other label, this set of descriptors mirrors exactly what my own child is dealing with. I feel no compulsion to explain myself or defend his challenges from bloggers with big words. But I do find the newest label helpful and I am hopeful that research will continue to reveal how the biology and psychology overlap. The drugs help my son be more himself...the delightful and brilliant self, not the angry and violent self. None-the-less, he hasn't had a "good day," for a full day, in years. No wonder this leads to depression as an adult.<br /><br />All of that being said, I do think that psychology is filled with know-it-alls without a clue. It took 2 years working with snobby psychologist, and hundreds of dollars, before a smart psychiatrist (who spent hours with us as a family, not minutes between sips of coffee) nailed what my child's specific challenge was and offered help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-32551053309773278892010-05-04T14:01:01.646-07:002010-05-04T14:01:01.646-07:00Anyone who thinks this is ridiculous, obviously do...Anyone who thinks this is ridiculous, obviously does not have a child that slips in between all of the diagnoses of ADHD, ODD, Bipolar... When your child has so much to offer, beautiful, smart, talented...however...cannot control their behavior and does not respond well to ADHD meds even though they can't focus for more than 5 minutes in class. A child who cannot catch a break in school because everyone has decided that they are just a kid with behavior issues and they are marked for good... Then you can rattle off all of your opinions about the world of over-diagnosing. And yes, many parents are grateful that they see an description of their child's behavior so they know they are not going crazy themselves or the worst parent ever, despite your 110% effort of doing the right thing for your child. Be careful what you are quick to judge because one day someone very special to you may need just what you are being so negative about. Deal with one of these issues and then make judgment about excuses for poor parenting. These people are professionals and sound completely ignorant...that is what is ridiculous...Not the diagnosesParentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-89782707596084349192010-04-27T01:01:22.835-07:002010-04-27T01:01:22.835-07:00I'm so glad that you people are so cavalierly ...I'm so glad that you people are so cavalierly disregarding the families torn apart by pediatric mood and behavioral issues by blaming the parents for these behaviors. What happens when parenting is not enough?<br />I want you to come over to my house for the next six months and show me how to avoid physically restraining my daughter when she flies into uncontrollable rages 2-3 times a day! Then let me know if my Magic 1-2-3, Developing Capable People, or any other parenting skills are being so poorly applied that I am neglecting the growth and development of my child. <br />It is obvious to me that NONE of you have any idea what families like mine are going through. We are not harkening to the drug companies, but when I can see my daughter emerge from this hell and begin living her life in an engaged way with her parents, family and friends by taking medication, I will continue to seek out any help and support from the mental health community that they can offer; pharmaceutical or otherwise. To NOT seek help would be the travesty in this situation.<br />This proposed diagnosis is the closest thing to an explanation that I've seen in the past six years. Since no pharmaceutical companies label their drugs for pediatric use (don't believe me? Ask them yourselves!), this is not an attempt to corner the market so to speak. I for one hope this is a turning point to truly identify and differentiate pediatric behaviors that need additional attention.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-55614889931370082802010-03-27T12:03:43.452-07:002010-03-27T12:03:43.452-07:00Wow, sounds like my girlfriend!!! Lol, not sure h...Wow, sounds like my girlfriend!!! Lol, not sure how this differs from a basic borderline personality, but I guess we all need to keep busy somehow..<br /><a href="http://philosopherofthefuture.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://philosopherofthefuture.blogspot.com</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-62271800977330667162010-03-26T19:26:42.538-07:002010-03-26T19:26:42.538-07:00You can read-see visual aids of this disorder on r...You can read-see visual aids of this disorder on reddit.com called "fffffuuuuuu".<br /><a href="http://www.reddit.com/r/fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu/" rel="nofollow">LINK</a>Mark p.s.2https://www.blogger.com/profile/10529811159862096782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-51451503472072317472010-03-02T23:08:17.531-08:002010-03-02T23:08:17.531-08:00Great post!
I find it sad that so many people are...Great post!<br /><br />I find it sad that so many people are ignorant of the reality of things.<br /><br />Bipolar disorder is a serious problem amongst todays children.LivePsychiatryhttp://www.livepsychiatry.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-78299197969718506132010-02-25T08:42:38.566-08:002010-02-25T08:42:38.566-08:00Bad kids and poor parenting? Really? How does th...Bad kids and poor parenting? Really? How does that explain a family with multiple kids in which all but one display typical "good behavior" with age appropriate emotions and behavior? How does that explain a child who is clearly upset and embarrassed after tantrums and outbursts, who cries and asks for help to stop acting the way he does? <br />I'm not sure what the answer is, and I'm frustrated to no end with psychologists that just want to slap a diagnosis on my child (BP at 4yo-which we did not allow) medicate him (which we also did not allow) and send us on our way. But labeling us as bad parents and our son, now 6, as a bad kid is simplistic, narrow minded and highly offensive.Nicolenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-8445163928539266512010-02-18T08:52:38.270-08:002010-02-18T08:52:38.270-08:00Also, Harvard psychiatrist Jordan Smoller's hi...Also, Harvard psychiatrist Jordan Smoller's hilarious satire on the subject of overdiagnosing children seems apropos at this juncture...<br />http://www.gmbservices.ca/Jr/EtiologyAndTreatmentOfChildhood.htmdoctorzhttp://www.doctorz.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-35260356092387581022010-02-18T08:35:58.288-08:002010-02-18T08:35:58.288-08:00T-DDD sounds like ODD but less descriptive in scop...T-DDD sounds like ODD but less descriptive in scope. Of course, this is by design since we have ample literature revealing the limitations of psychotropic medications in effecting a positive outcome for ODD. T-DDD is a step in the right direction away from pediatric Bipolar, but we'd be better off without it, since Big Pharma and academic psychiatry will continue to collude in promoting drug treatment of what is ostensibly an externalizing behavior disorder. Reductionism in psychiatry continues!! What Voltaire said centuries ago, applies more than ever today...Doctors are people who prescribe drugs of which they know little for diseases of which they know less to people of whom they know nothing.doctorzhttp://www.doctorz.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-63197917753070483422010-02-15T09:18:09.813-08:002010-02-15T09:18:09.813-08:00I don't see the huge bandwagon of apologies be...I don't see the huge bandwagon of apologies being passed along to the duped parents of false "bipolar" kids in this newest DDD disease creating revelation.<br /><br />Just another way to keep the greed ball rolling on pathogizing the broad range of normal developmental behaviors in children with a dangerous disease mongering/drugging modality. <br /><br />Of course for people like "Anonymous" above that always need an excuse to avoid the focus being placed on "Poor Parenting skills", or on "reflecting their own unresolved control/anger issues upon children", and finally the "quick fix " of a disease to point the finger at as their grand DSM solution to absolve so many questionable parents of their innate personal responsibility.<br /><br />Heck, once you throw in what a mass market "cash cow" this creates, and you have a perfect storm of destroyed and maimed children for many generations to come. <br /><br />Nice job DSM committeeAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08682484589058747783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-62579667236185798012010-02-14T19:29:10.616-08:002010-02-14T19:29:10.616-08:00You know, I have always been puzzled by DSM criter...You know, I have always been puzzled by DSM criteria for "mental " illness in light of the current wave of biological psychiatric hegemony. How come all of these listed supposed "brain" disorders diagnoses contain the exclusion criteria that the symptoms cannot be due to the direct effects of a medical or neurological condition? WTF? Am I missing something here? I mean, if you are going to claim these are "brain" disorders or "neurobiological illnesses" than aren't all of the symptoms due to a medical/neurological condition? Can some one educate me as to psychiatry's oxymoronic and epistemological status?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-50674979579770579132010-02-14T02:23:14.748-08:002010-02-14T02:23:14.748-08:00Whoops, I'm ten years late for my meds!
Serio...Whoops, I'm ten years late for my meds!<br /><br />Seriously, I'm wondering, <i>"whatever happened to 'the parents are poor, and the child's acting out because he's mad and sad?'"</i> It sounds like a situation that you can work through and learn <i>a lot</i> from.<br /><br />Can't learn so much with meds, though. If you take away the symptoms forcefully, through meds, then what chance do you have of learning from your negative emotions? I have a friend who acts all hyper ADD without her meds -- and her parents look really neglectful. <br /><br />Perhaps definitions like these are made to accommodate parents, loved ones, and everyone else, who don't care and want an easy fix-all med solution so they don't deal with bad kids? Sorry, I'm a college student -- that's just my guess. :)DigiMarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05674983179551430823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-56234020613878835232010-02-13T08:59:35.070-08:002010-02-13T08:59:35.070-08:00I was a single father raising two kids for over 10...I was a single father raising two kids for over 10 years. Both had AD/HD, OCD, Depression and one has Aspergers.<br /><br />I have met few MHR Professionals who can even relate to what it is like to be 24/7 with kids like mine. Today, with more patience and focus than most people would ever deliver, the kids are young adults with reasonably good behaviors.<br /><br />I will be the first person to admit that we have much to learn about the human body especially in the area of brain chemistry et al.<br /><br />I caution all the MH/MR Professionals to step easy here and not jump to another acronym with light speed. <br /><br />It has become clear to me that the pharmaceutical firms are very much driving the plane in many cases. <br /><br />I encourage the MH/MR professionals to truly study before you pop out another diagnosis. Sure, more college studies and clinical trials will drive this stuff.<br /><br />Ultimately, my kids made it this far becuase I placed them ahead of all else. Another pill is not neccessarily the answer.<br /><br />The U.S. is one of the sickest countries in the world. We have more doctors, hospitals, ER's and pills than any other country in the world.<br /><br />I would encourage Western medicine to learn about Eastern practices. I am sorry that this will create a financial hardship on the pill makers but such is life.<br /><br />Do your research and do it well. We do not always have the need to reinvent something.<br /><br />BobBobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-54278641446159043582010-02-13T02:03:10.367-08:002010-02-13T02:03:10.367-08:00Can you have a disorder that doesn't officiall...Can you have a disorder that doesn't officially exist yet?? Anonymous thinks so... I'm not sure.<br /><br />Seriously though, this seems like a defeat for the "pediatric bipolar" crowd, but if you define PBD out of existence only by creating a new disorder - which, presumably, will "benefit from" pharmacological treatment in the same way (i.e. giving sedating drugs to kids with this disorder will indeed sedate them more than placebo, which is all most RCTs show) - I'm not sure this is a good thing.Neuroskeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06647064768789308157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-51909838566028033362010-02-12T09:16:46.735-08:002010-02-12T09:16:46.735-08:00Psychiatry is pathetic and has deteriorated to the...Psychiatry is pathetic and has deteriorated to the state of religion where we must await word from the high priests as to what constitutes a sin/disease or not. How can rational people be taken in by this nonsense? I suppose there is no alternative for psychiatry anymore than there is for Rome.T-DDD. Yet another psychiatric disorder with no basis but for the unmet expectations of failing parents and healthcare providers looking to rationalize their existence. Ugh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-27642957857755102772010-02-12T05:24:19.012-08:002010-02-12T05:24:19.012-08:00I would be more than excited if they simply and ex...I would be more than excited if they simply and explicitly removed the word disorder for the obvious reasons, but as a "victim" of Biederman's academic/clinical tyranny in the Boston area and confirmational proof of all the longitudinal data, I am still very pleased. Here's why.<br /><br />1. This group of children will be diagnosed with something explicitly not Bipolar Disorder. Say goodbye to pharmacological-only treatment.<br /><br />2. Secondly, intellectually, they did an honest job of calling a spade a spade, and so whether for treatment purposes or diagnosis purposes this will allow for more intellectually honest research to be done in these areas.<br /><br />3. I do not like labeling either, and wish they would simply remove the word Disorder because it tends to impart this unjustified validity to the diagnosis and as such its a lot stickier than it should ever be, but, this change will still save tens of thousands of kids from the grips of a BP diagnosis and massive overmedication, and basically (hopefully) every hairbrained idea that has ever come out of Mass General Child Psychiatry. Furthermore, hopefully, researchers will be able to discern what it is about this presentation of symptoms that imparts a high risk of depressive disorders later on ( i can think of a million ) and then do something about it.<br /><br />Either way I see this as a resounding rebuke, slap in the face even, to those awful, greedy, dishonest, intellectually disabled zealots that will better the lives of thousands of young kids in situations that need to be changed, and will spare them the agony of having their body and self-concept assaulted by this diagnosis and treatment all through their developing years, while the cause of their problems remains unchanged and ignored by the psychiatric community.<br /><br />Let's face it. Rebecca Riley lived in an abusive home, where she had no help in learning how to regulate herself, and was obviously not cherished by either abusive parent. That such a grave an unambiguous predicament for the girl could be so epically ignored by her Child Psychiatrist, incompetent, lazy to look into things, whatever, is a disgusting testament to the putrid ideas emanating from MGH.<br /><br />Again, slap in the face to Biederman, Wozniak, Wilens, Prince, et al, I'm happy. I really wish this happened 10 years ago because I'm sure Rebecca and I would be doing a lot better than the present state of affairs.JCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-53782939448022001492010-02-12T03:58:04.402-08:002010-02-12T03:58:04.402-08:00Anon: Yes, I definitely have this disorder - thank...Anon: Yes, I definitely have this disorder - thank you for pointing this out. Your witty remarks have really put me in my place.CL Psychhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13990549972520745769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-49471179228111134082010-02-11T18:07:25.857-08:002010-02-11T18:07:25.857-08:00Sounds like this author has this disorder with all...Sounds like this author has this disorder with all the cursing and anger going on here. S/he has also probably not lived with a child that "behaves badly", because he would be looking for any help possible to bring sanity to his world by helping this child behave better; whether it be in the form of the latest "tranquilizer" or other treatments.<br /><br /><br />From one who needs hekp.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33960805.post-54139407076081724972010-02-10T10:16:12.871-08:002010-02-10T10:16:12.871-08:00I'm uneasy. Rather than a specific neuropsyc...I'm uneasy. Rather than a specific neuropsychiatric or biological disorder, it's a symptom cluster of undesirable behaviours being elevated to an "illness" necessitating "treatment" which inevitably will involve medication.<br /><br />This is bad medicine, no? It erodes the veracity of biomedical neorupsychiatry whilst also diminishing psychosocial psychiatry (through formulating psychological experiences as psychiatric illness).<br /><br />Lose, lose, to my mind. Unless you're a drug company . . .The Shrinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10009039342346247138noreply@blogger.com