Thursday, August 30, 2007

Comment Wars

I recently posted about Dr. Rita Pal, who is under investigation by the General Medical Council in the UK. There have now been 67 comments written regarding the post, and I suspect the number will continue to rise. Anonymous commenters have made several posts challenging the veracity of Dr. Pal's assertion that she is being investigated for the ludicrous charge of linking to a "secret" document from her blog. Other comments have attacked Dr. Pal from other angles. Dr. Pal has refuted the allegations of the anonymous commenters vigorously. My original post is here and more in-depth reporting can be found at Furious Seasons and the Scientific Misconduct Blog, as well as at the Register, where the story was initially reported.

I've not been very impressed with some comments, such as the one that simply accused Dr. Pal of being "borderline." I've got a pretty open comment policy (obviously), but if we're going to post comments, let's make them something other than name calling. Some of the posts have been regarding the Lisa Blakemore-Brown issue, on which my original opinion remains unchanged.

101 comments:

nab said...

Wow . . . it jumped to 67?

Last I saw was the "borderline" comment around 9 or so.

I can't help but wonder if these random anonymous posters have a pony in this race. Because as far as I am aware, this is not generally a hot-button/everyone-has-an-opinion kinda issue.

I've seen people "swarmed" like this before. Looking through the comments, it almost seems like two sides (with no more than a few parties on each team) litigating what seemed a very personal issue.

Without getting too in to the details, it seems that Pal was the target of a concerted attack. I wish I could do some amateur sleuthing on the IP addresses of those posters just to see (a) how many; and (b) where they originate.

Regardless, very few independent, disinterested parties in that thread.

John Smith said...

"I wish I could do some amateur sleuthing on the IP addresses of those posters just to see (a) how many; and (b) where they originate"

No need to do any sleuthing on me: 'John Smith' = Paul Heathcote, Sheffield - born and bred. Got a problem with that!! (only joking)

Pal likes being a target, she sets herself up as a victim to gain sympathy from people who don't know her.

nab said...

"Pal likes being a target, she sets herself up as a victim to gain sympathy from people who don't know her."

Tis quite an accusation. Perhaps. I know neither her nor you. But you'd carry the burden on that one Senor Heathcote.

I'd rather not waste my time arguing about such subjective projections of some third party's motives, as I can think of no larger waste of time. I spend equally as little time on sympathizing on victims.

I'd rather look at the facts not the folks: what is she in trouble for? She could be the most abrasive unfriendly soul I'd ever meet (fyi: I am NOT saying I think this), but that doesn't change the fact that if "linking" is her "crime" here, the GMC would appear to be either fools or worse.

Tis quite simple. If you and the good doctor would like to engage in armchair psychoanalysis and personal insults, then good for you. But I don't have the time for such petulance.

Cheers,
nab

Herb said...

Character assassination by way of Internet blogs and message forums are rampant. I should know as I’ve too been the subject.

What I find interesting and that which I chuckle about is the very same individual(s), “Anonymous,” makes his/her rounds from site to site (Chuckle, chuckle, chuckle).

One simply has got love this or those cowardly individual(s) attempting to hide behind the faƧade of anonymity. Personally, I immediately and substantially place a discounted value on the validity of the postings by this individual(s).

“It's not about being positive or negative -- it's about telling the truth.” --- Liz Spikol

Warmly,
Herb
VNSdepression.com

Paul Heathcote said...

Nab:
Anonymous said on 'The Crime of Linking':
Excuse me? Dr Pal is not being investigated for a link at all - this is disingenuous information being blogged around the internet and of course Dr Pal can say that because the General Medical Council are gagged and cannot comment.

Please read the GMC regulations, because if you delve into their fitness to practise rules, you will see that it would have to far more serious than blogging a link.

Monday, August 27, 2007 9:58:00 AM

nab said...

Mr. Heathcote:

The inference you draw is that which is at issue. You offer the quintessence of circularity:

She is not being improperly investigated beyond the scope of the rules (for whatever reason) because according to the rules she would have to be accused of something serious to find herself in such an inquiry.

"[Y]ou will see that it would have to far more serious than blogging a link."

The way in which the GMC is alleged to be abusing its power is precisely in operating beyond the rules. Whether they are or not, I am not going to just presume as much because "surely it must be more serious."

That is laughable on its face. It is simply devoid of logical weight. You are presupposing your own conclusion to offer in support of that conclusion. Please stop with that nonsense.

I have no idea what exactly is the truth about the matter, and your "argument" does not change that in the least. In fact, it leads one to think you intellectually dishonest or dis-intellectually honest.

Anonymous said...

The GMC is there to protect patients, not doctors. Whilst their investigations of doctors have to be fair, and allegations against doctors proved to a criminal level (beyond reasonable doubt, which is not the same level of proof, by the way, when family courts hear allegations by doctors against mothers) nevertheless it is we as patients, the public, who overwhelmingly need protecting.

The pattern of behaviour elucidated by internet searches on Dr Rita Pal's name is to say the least untypical of any other medical practitioner ever.

Would you wish to be treated by a psychiatrist obsessed with some of the subjects she has posted about on My Telegraph? Even they drew line and deleted her posts about Visible Panty Lines. Her posts about brassieres, breasts, scantily clad and chocolate covered female figures remain. (Only because the GMC can view them if they wish maybe).

Name one medical practitioner who displays this kind of public behaviour. Aubrey Blumsohn, what do you say? Your site does not have this kind of imagery.

Does this behaviour bring the medical profession into disrepute? That would be for the General Medical Council to arbitrate upon.

It's time this happened.

Paul Heathcote said...

Dear nab,
I'm sorry but I haven't a clue what you're on about re:
"In fact, it leads one to think you intellectually dishonest or dis-intellectually honest."

Which 'one' does it lead to think?

I'm only a mere carpet fitter. Copy and paste the following link into your browser, have a good read and then tell this blog if you, being 'intellectually honest'(?)of course, if Dr Pal's behaviour seems normal for a medical practitioner.

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.
legal/browse_thread/thread/
82bbccda277df9a0/0a258ce575e08be9?
lnk=st&q=rita+pal&rnum=28#
0a258ce575e08be9

Many thanks

Paul Heathcote said...

I'm sorry, that link wont work but if you search google groups for :

"rita pal: my final response to her recent empty legal threats and blustering"

you will get there.

Anonymous said...

This was on:

http://www.nhsexposedblog.blogspot.com/


This is what CP a professional had to say. CP always has a way with language. I just love what CP writes. Expresses my sentiments very well indeed. More from CP tomorrow. This is what he wrote on 04 April 2007 00:47.


on Wednesday August 29th 2007

Nothing since then, it's Friday 1st September now.

We will bring you more failed promises, a wealth of them.

This was not from an ordinary person, housewife, secretary, carpet fitter, journalist, charity volunteer. No, this was from a doctor, registered medical practitioner, psychiatrist. One of the highest in society, the most respected of professionals.

Does not deliver on promises.

Anonymous said...

"One of the highest in society, the most respected of professionals".

What Dr Rita Pal is doing is praying on the vulnerable and bringing the profession into disripute.

On three occasions she has choosen people that have gone through trauma, Dr Tim Woodman, Ms Neula Berry and Mrs Fiona Woollard, the latter two have lost children. I understand Dr Tim Woodman became depressed, made Neula Berry ill and the same thing is happening to Fiona Woollard.

This is utterly disgraceful to someone who is a medical registered practitioner and a psychiatrist who supposedly understands bereavement.

Anonymous said...

check this:
http://www.subjectaccess.blogspot.com/

The Scribe said...
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Anonymous said...

"4. Fiona Woolard. You can look her up on Google.com. She was responsible for forwarding emails from Lisa Blakemore Brown to Penny Mellor. One of the two tampered with said emails unless there was a third party."

Tampering with evidence for a hearing would be a criminal offence, which you have publicly accused two named individuals of perpetrating.

What is your evidence for this?

Why forwarding emails is such an issue for RP though is hard to understand since this is something done as a matter of course by her. If it's a crime for others it's a crime for her too.

Maybe it's the excessive chocolate consumption. It's known to harm dogs.

Anonymous said...

Maybe the respected and respectable academics supporting RP's cause would draw a small comparison between her sayings and those of others they encounter in their professional life?

How many lies do they permit others to tell before accepting they are discredited and not to be supported or believed?

Then tell us how many proved RP falsehoods must be posted here before you (and Aubrey Blumsohn) put RP in her true place?

Is it just one? Or must it be a hundred?

Paul Heathcote said...

Dear nab,

Did you google?:

"rita pal: my final response to her recent empty legal threats and blustering"

Are you going to tell us if Dr Pal's behaviour seems normal for a medical practitioner? Y/N?

The Scribe said...

Empty Legal threats eh:)

I don't for one minute believe they are empty :). I do though believe in prioritising issues. When I though stipulate something, I normally take action within a year.

Ms Woolard has already admitted to the fact that the emails in Lisa Blakemore Brown's case were of dubious authenticity so someone tampered with them.

The permutations are rather small aren't they? The very fact that they are of dubious authencity means that Lisa Blakemore Brown's case should be thrown out of the BPS. These emails have caused an awful lot of ruffles. Perhaps we could postulate on the reason why this could be so.

Editor - I would suggest we do some research on cyberpsychology of flame wars. I believe the behaviour of this group on your website reminds me of squealing little farm pigs. So desperate to be taken seriously but so far from be able to analyse and appreciate the value of evidence. The other issue is they are so predictable. I often wish a psychologist would write a paper with me on the dysfunctional evolution of cyberbehaviour over time.

Rita Pal
www.nhsexposed.com
www.nhsexposedblog.blogspot.com

The Scribe said...
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The Scribe said...

Paul Heathcote

For avoidance of doubt, you are currently not a priority in my worldview.

We will though joust at a later time so try not to attention seek.
Aiding a harasser is also an important concept for you :).

And do something about the aesthetic visual quality of your blog. Its so 1970s. If you are going to design a hate site for me then kindly do it with style.

Currently, it looks as though a moggie scratched it on each end and a spider sat on your keyboard. Keep telling yourself " quality quality quality - not quantity". It is all about not appearing to be a such a commoner.

What are our US friend going to think? The English cannot write English? Bobby Ewing was a nice touch though showing that this is the only section of USA culture you are aware of.

Dr Rita Pal
www.nhsexposed.com
www.nhsexposedblog.blogspot.com

The Scribe said...

Editor

My profound apologies for these cyberstalkers. All their remarks are of course motivated by revenge.

I am happy to copy the documentation from the GMC to you if you could email me on rpal@btinternet.com. As I have previously stated - those are the only two allegations so far.

Ms Mellor though repeatedly emails the GMC with further allegations on more or less a daily basis.

For the sake of clarity

1. I write on a number of subjects. I am afterall a writer. I also write a column for a magazine in the US. The GMC have no jurisdiction on any of this material. The GMC though feels that it is abnormal to read Stephen King material :).

2. Tim Woodman was a doctor who made a complaint about me in defamation - to the GMC 2004-5. He arose from Doctors.net.uk a website linked to the General Medical Council. Despite the fact the GMC cannot consider defamation, they took the matter forward. I won the complaint - it was thrown out. Again, I have the decision in this should you wish to view it. Tim Woodman and his cohorts at Doctors.net.uk complained en masse at the GMC while R Pal v GMC (1) was ongoing in court. You can conclude whatever you wish from that. Save to say that internet wars are common in litigation to destabilise the litigant.

3.Ms Neelu Berry was involved in Adoko v Pal. I was sued for libel 4 times. The judgment exists on our website www.nhsexposed.com. Adoko their legal advisor was declared a vexatious litigant.

A case which I won hands down. I was successful in an Harassment Act injunction and the US Embassy kindly removed most of their websites.

Their vindictive campaign was much like that of Ms Mellor. One of desperation. Most of the posts you will see were efforts to discredit me during this case. This did not make an ounce of difference to the outcome of the case.

4. Fiona Woolard. You can look her up on Google.com. She was responsible for forwarding emails from Lisa Blakemore Brown to Penny Mellor. One of the two tampered with said emails unless there was a third party.

5. Our dealings with Paul Heathcote are as follows. He came to us with his negligence case. We were the only publication to publish it. He was sued but one the injunction against the piece with our assistance. Tickle and a Pickle took almost a few weeks to code up and design. This we did for free. We were friends from 2000-2007. More recently and for no reason he has set upon attacking me repeatedly. One can only assume that this is a misguided effect and temporary loss of his normal rational logical thought processes. Save to say he is not my priority at present whatever his motives maybe.

6. The GMC is used as an instrument of revenge by these people. I have challenged their status quo, gathered all the evidence against a dysfunctional support group, uncovered their actions against professionals and their patterns hence I am not popular. Their behaviour though is very typical and as predicted on our website www.nhsexposed.com in April 2007.

Cyberpsychology is an interesting subject and the editor should use this as a study of how people really become disinhibited with the internet. Fox Hunting is a good example. Thats if the fox wishes to play.

This fox though prefers to apply her mind to more important issues in the grand scale of battles.

If it gives Mr Heathcote great pleasure in writing rubbish then he must do so. He is though but a small microscopic spec in the issues I have raised. Nevertheless, he is an exhibition of bad human behaviour. Perhaps his upbringing is to blame.

Finally, many thanks for the feature, I shall observe your interpretation in terms of cyberpsychology with interest. I believe we call this an advanced flame war.

If all of you will excuse me, I have a movie to watch and some fine chocolate to eat.

Yours Sincerely

Dr Rita Pal
www.nhsexposed.com
www.nhsexposedblog.blogspot.com

Paul Heathcote said...

Rita, Rita, Rita.

You said:
"What are our US friend going to think? The English cannot write English?"

'What are our US friend going to think?' That doesn't make sense.
Another example of YOUR inability to write English.

Obviously Carterknowle Junior School did a better job educating me than Cotysmore did with you. Perhaps you should sue them for failing you.

The Scribe said...

I am though not "English" :)

Many thanks for the correction. It should quite rightly be "friends".

Could you though correct the hate site to me please?

RP

Paul Heathcote said...

Sorry, my mistake. I thought you told Tom Moore you were British, born in Sutton Coldfield.

It's not a 'hate site' Rita. Nobody hates you - they just want the opportunity to respond to your comments which has been impossible on your blogs because you delete any response you don't agree with.

The Scribe said...

Paul

Of course it is a hate site. If you are going to host one, please have the courtesy of designing a good one. It is an embarassment to be on a website where the design is quite frankly "yuk".

Red headers? Ewwwww. The only good thing about the website is the Bobby Ewing photo. The rest is just looks like a mistake in a print factory.

"Nobody hates you"

That would be an interesting but inaccurate interpretation of the type of remarks ( most of them false) that you and your colleagues engage in.

The reason some comments were moderated from our blog is because they were abusive.

Brian Morgan Freelance Journalist for instance wrote the following and sent it through our blog.

It goes as follows

"Yes Shame, you will serve time in a prison RP, and learn how much lesbians come to love you - or not.
You did not have a breast feeding baby removed - but you might get to experience breast feeling for the very first time.And this is nothing compared with what will happen to you.E-mail tampering - that's nothing - this is not the GMC you are up against -
you chose your enemy.Publish this comment"

So here we are I have published it. Of course, there are more postings of this type then those are the sorts of people you now keep company with. You do recall the section on aiding and abetting don't you. Shall we also publish the other repeated threats?

Oh and by the way, all of them are caught on IP :). We could have more Brian Morgan/Penny Mellor outpourings if you wish - the sort of dirt that swivels around in their brain.

British is a citizenship
English is an ethnicity

I am surprised you were not aware of that :)

Fine company you keep these days Paul. Ever thought of exchanging those humans for a an animal of some sort. I thought that Goldfish might have a higher level of intelligence.

Dr Rita Pal
www.nhsexposed.com
www.nhsexposedblog.blogspot.com

The Scribe said...

PS Mr Heathcote - please learn to use the insert link format on your blog.

Please also come up with something better than Adoko v Pal and surrounding discussions most of which were misquoted.

Lastly, try these colours for the hate site

1. Light Blue Layout
2. Times New Roman text on the header
3. Try using labels for sections of your posts
4. Write an intro para
a. What the post is relevant to
b. How its relevant
c. Why everyone should hate Rita Pal because of it.
4. Develop some artistry. Use www.imagechef.com
5. Try not to use multicolours.

Content
1. Be a little more original
2. Try and find better material than Adoko v Pal. Doesn't do you cred much good given I won the case ( well all four actually). He sued me. He was declared a vexatious litigant.
3. Write in paragraphs please.


Can we have some improvements in design so it doesn't hurt everyone's optic nerve.

There is a section on blog-help. Please read it and implement what you have learned properly.

Rita Pal

Paul Heathcote said...

There you go again Rita - you're not making any sense.

"Fine company you keep these days Paul. Ever thought of exchanging those humans for a an animal of some sort. I thought that Goldfish might have a higher level of intelligence."

For 'a an animal'? (sorry, couldn't resist it) So you're Dr Do little now are you?

The Scribe said...

I believe its known as a typo :). You ought to know about those Paul given you have many strewn over your website.

Do try and use the spellchecker. Google Blogger gives you tools for a reason.

About free speech. I believe an interesting issue is the ban I have recieved from msbp.com. That would be a ban in responding to the bizarre set of allegations from the Adam's Family there.

Anyway, do think about purchasing a goldfish. I believe they are more intellectually stimulating than the bizarre behaviour on msbp.com


RP

Paul Heathcote said...

"About free speech. I believe an interesting issue is the ban I have recieved from msbp.com. That would be a ban in responding to the bizarre set of allegations from the Adam's Family there."

What's a spoll chicker? please remember 'i before e, except after c', as in 'received'. Have you a spoll chicker?

"Anyway, do think about purchasing a goldfish. I believe they are more intellectually stimulating than the bizarre behaviour on msbp.com."

So Rita, if you think goldfish are more intellectually stimulating than msbp.com then go and buy a goldfish, stop whining about being 'barred' from msbp.com and spend some quality time together.

As for 'free' speech - well Rita, talk is 'cheap'.

The Scribe said...

"talk is 'cheap"

A bit like you really.

RP

Paul Heathcote said...

For once Rita I agree with you!

Anonymous said...

Didn't your friend Lisa contribute regularly to MSBP in this defamation and get some of her business from that site?

I guess when she was banned, it was a little difficult to get business with the help of Charles Pragnell.

That goes for friend, Charles Pragnell and Tina England.

All contributed to the MAMA Board in which case - they also defamed doctors particularly Professor Meadow and Professor David Southall including making false allegations that Mrs Mellor was a scientologist.

They regularly defamed others.

The Scribe said...

Would that be cheap and nasty?

I wonder if you and your colleagues are on sale in Aldi?
Perhaps 50p per brain cell or 75p for both.

Rita Pal

Anonymous said...

Oh and Reets

Isn't your site really about protecting doctors, not about a support group.

Just a few little errors on your site - there is no professional group for secretaries, administrators, receptionists and others.

Well, your wrong, its called the Assocation of Medical Secretaries, Practice Administrators and Receptionists, commonly known as ASMPAR. Their Diploma is equivalent to two A'levels and is widely respected by Consultants. Medical Secretaries don't just type, they are integral parts of a consultant's team. Practice managers also cover the same organisation. Has been in existence for many, many years but you do not have to be a member to be a medical secretary.

Confidentiality and Data Protection are key aspects of the job and are taught that from day one.

Your friend Lisa was out of order,

Paul Heathcote said...

"Would that be cheap and nasty?"

Just cheap.

"I wonder if you and your colleagues are on sale in Aldi?"

Nothing wrong with Aldi Reets.

"Perhaps 50p per brain cell or 75p for both."

Don't think you're going to smooze your way into my good books that easily you cheeky monkey!

The Scribe said...

Who wants to be in YOUR good books Paul? We are enemies remember.

I believe its something you created. So tell me what exactly is your gripe with me. I would quite like to know. I understand Mellor's vendetta but I don't understand yours. Outline it for me.

R Pal

Anonymous said...

ASMPAR. sorry AMSPAR typo.

Aldi - apparently really good buys on washing machines, computers etc.
I had it on good authority from someone who is a single mother. No different than Tesco, Sainsburys.

Anonymous said...

Oh Reets,

You forget, Paul's charge is its called talking to Ms Mellor. "He's a turncoat"

Same 'charge' that Fiona has.

Looks like you broke up friendship too with Christina England and Fiona and spun a line about Lisa.

Anonymous said...

After all, supposedly 'into' Human Rights.

Freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of association, discrimination and the rights to form groups are an integral part of the European Human Rights Act.

But, however, freedom of expression has limited powers including the use of private life material. I guess, a little researching on said issue and a balance. You are no journalist are you Dr Pal?

The Scribe said...

"He's a turncoat"

I don't quite buy that. Tell me Paul. What is it that engulfs you into the Mellor clan against me.

One may not approve of me but I always find it odd that someone who has been a friend for such a long time would suddenly opt to turn against me. There is always a different choice - ie to be independent of both parties ie not to take sides.

It would be good to understand what these reasons are before war breaks out between us. Arpad tells me you have never liked Mellor.

R Pal

Anonymous said...

"There is always a different choice - ie to be independent of both parties ie not to take sides".

I guess that was what Fiona did until she saw what was on your blog - nasty, horrible, rubbish that was derrogatory in every sense.

One might have had sympathy and empathy for some of your cause. Not now, not ever because you have been so hurtful and nasty that I can not believe any doctor would behave like that.

After all, this is about save "save Dave campaign" and not "save Lisa" campaign.

The Scribe said...

Fiona Woolard has problems with asserting the truth. It fluctuates depending on the time of day and the mood she is in.

Her views regarding Ms Mellor fluctuates rapidly as well. I have a ton of emails regarding her views on Mellor. When I return back to the blog after the case, I will definitely put them up on line.

R Pal

Anonymous said...

Rather the other way round - tons of e-mails from Lisa Blakemore-Brown, Charles Pragnell, Christina England about Penny Mellor, hacking into computers - I believe your colleagues did this to Paul Heathcoat today.

Tons and tons of e-mails manipulated.

You have no authority to reveal private e-mails between all of them.

Just shows you what a nasty individual you can be.

I do so hope that the tax authorities have been informed of the extra income derived from Expert Witness Reports of the various individuals. Maybe worth a call even to Australia.

Anonymous said...

Manipulated from the very beginning by Charles Pragnell, Lisa Blakemore-Brown.

Let's not forget that they failed to do their duty in relation to Sharon Payne who had an excellent chance of winning her case. Took their fees and ran.....so much for the cause and all that.

The person with the difficulty in the truth are those two individuals.

Anonymous said...

Perhpas the Courts may like to consider the case of recovered costs against two professionals in relation to Sharon Payne.

Anonymous said...

Strange how jessie j's children ranged from two to three back to two and her name was not revealed.

It is odd how her severely autistic child managed to write such a good piece even though can't use a computer!

The Scribe said...

"You have no authority to reveal private e-mails between all of them"

Whose authority would I require to reveal what Fiona thinks about Penny Mellor. Afterall, the emails were sent to be personally and it is entirely up to me to publish them. Infact, after this is all over, I may even zip them up and send them to Mellor herself.

The good thing about me is that you know what I think upfront. The problem though with Mellor, is that a number of people wish to backbite, tell on her and expose her. There are enough postings on Mellor for the time being. The rest of Fiona's comments are probably either for her eyes only or the public's. I would quite like to bring back Lady Tottington Smythe. Infact, it has been suggested that I start up a single blog dedicated to the antics of Fiona Woolard aka Lawyer to be. This is not to mention the skeletons all her relatives have.

Rita Pal

Anonymous said...

Rita

What right do you think that you have to process private e-mails, private medical details which against any laws of journalism, breaches of data protection and her Human Rights. You are not a data controller or a journalist.

None of which are in the public interest and just plainly mean on your part.

Fiona has done absolutely nothing to you apart from being a pawn in nasty game that you have weaved.

Fiona is just getting on with her life, please leave her be.

Please remove all the information you have on her on your site. It is just plainly vindictive and borne by malice and jealously.

The Scribe said...

"Fiona is just getting on with her life"

Is she really? Or is she posting here maliciously.

Anyway, Penny Mellor is welcome to the copies of emails about her following completion of the case. Free copies to all and sundry. Might even place it on e-bay.

Rita Pal

Anonymous said...

"Fiona is just getting on with her life"...

I am sure Ms Mellor couldn't give a shit and already knows Fiona had been manipulated.

Might find Fiona sitting at work during the working week or at law school or trying to get better. Neither accessing the web at work nor at law school and not talking to a bunch of people that's sole conversation appears to be around e-mails dated 4 years ago. A bit tiresome really.

So go away, Dr Pal and leave her alone to get on with her life.

Her husband can't bear anything to do with the subject of you.

Sorry but that is fact.

The Scribe said...

"Her husband can't bear anything to do with the subject of you"

He apparently likes the subject German Uniforms. Vorsprung Durch Technique. Does Fiona Woolard like German Uniforms as well?

Rita Pal

Anonymous said...

Don't think it is any of your business.

Anonymous said...

Rita

Please go away and leave them to get on with their life.

They have suffered immensly through thei loss of their only child.

It is not nice to continue to threaten, harass with the threats of litigation when there is no case to answer.

Fiona has requested the removal of the medical information and private e-mails.

Please kindly do so.

This is no flame war simply a request to do as requested months ago.

Anonymous said...

What you forget Rita is that it was Charles Pragnell who suggested that Fiona went into law.

Fiona also has e-mails in relation to getting work via her condition and a paper was written recently about autism. Sad she missed out. Fiona supported Lisa on numerous threads on the Board. So it is non-sense that Fiona for defaming her. On many occasion supported her evidence is on the Board for all to see.

It was also Christina England that placed information about Fiona on the MSBP Board whilst in hospital in December 2005 and continued to ring up about e-mails and Mellor.

So, Fiona has had enough of the e-mail talk and was simply studying all last year.

Thanks to Charles Pragnell, has a different view of life even though he's been a weasel. Strange how he has changed.

Sometimes, things have to go astray and the e-mails subject weren't on the high priority 'to do' list.

Poodles need walking, ironing and cooking... never mind blogging is a bit of a sad old life.

Happy blogging Rita and happy spinning a spin.

Hasn't anybody ever told you about "It's a back stabbing world in the MSBP world"!

Anonymous said...

Brian Morgan Freelance Journalist for instance wrote the following and sent it through our blog.

It goes as follows

"Yes Shame, you will serve time in a prison RP, and learn how much lesbians come to love you - or not.
You did not have a breast feeding baby removed - but you might get to experience breast feeling for the very first time.And this is nothing compared with what will happen to you.E-mail tampering - that's nothing - this is not the GMC you are up against -
you chose your enemy.Publish this comment"


What a charming comment to post to your blog. It conjours up unpleasant images of a solitary old guy in a dirty raincoat, hunched over a keyboard in some dingy apartment, breathing heavily as he types one-handed.

Whether or not that is a true representation of the guy in question - and it may not be, it's just the impression that his words create for me - it's hardly something you'd expect from a journalist who covers delicate family matters.

Imagine a parent wrongly accused of MSBP (and I'm sure there must be one or two lurking among the guilty-but-protesting-their-innocence brigade) going to him for publicity, only to find he writes that kind of filth.

You can just see the headlines, can't you, not to mention how it might look to Social Services etc. "So, Mrs Accused Parent, you hang out with this guy who writes about lesbian breast feeling on public forums..." Bad. Very bad.

Anyway, it's good to see you logged the poster's IP address - bet he wasn't expecting that!

As for the raft of other comments on both this thread and the other one, I'm utterly astonished. I've had one eye on the MAMA forums as a rich source of "World's gone mad" material for quite a while, but the folks posting here have really excelled themselves this time.

For example, I notice that the other thread contains any number of demands for information about all manner of things, many of which pertain to your forthcoming litigation. And they seem to expect you to answer them?!?!

Not too long ago, Mellor said, in a post to the MAMA board,

"You know what really p*sses me off is the fact that demands to see the "evidence" supporting what I say are screamed all over the net, when I have no intention of showing anyone other than the appropriate authorities the evidence.

Why on earth would I share ten years of work with a complete stranger because they demand that I do and when they don't get their own way have hissy fits on blog sites.

To those people I say this "bog off" I don't want the help and I am not answerable to them at any level. It's none of their business.


Seems to me like a very complete answer to the demands for info coming from the Mellor camp, written in her own words - surely even she must understand that!

Equally certainly, any third party reading these comments will understand that:

1 - Nobody on the eve of litigation is going to reveal anything of significance about their case, particularly when the folks demanding the information either are, or are intimately associated with, the individuals who made the case necessary in the first place.

2 - Such demands for information are clearly failing to have the desired effect, and so further comments are made with a view to goading a response. Hence, allegations, accusations and general unpleasantness are posted with a view to obtaining information. Anyone who takes the time to read and really think about some of the comments posted in these threads will quickly realise that, no matter how they may seem at first glance, they are, in truth, illogical, irrational, unsustainable and, to put it bluntly, either wrong or based on false assumptions leading to very strange conclusions.

3 - Since this is obviously the case, the result is actually the reverse of that intended. Namely, those posting the aforesaid bullshit end up looking very silly indeed, although they must surely be used to that by now.

Of course, I very much doubt that Mellor and her little helpers see it that way, but then they have significant difficulties with reality at the best of times - and this is definitely NOT the best of times for them.

Still, far be it from me to be a party-pooper. So, in the spirit of the comments above and on the other thread, here are some questions for Mellor:

1 - How many complaints have you made to the GMC in the past 10 years?

2 - How many individual doctors have you complained about?

3 - How many of those complaints were upheld?

4 - How many other professionals have you complained about? Please break down your answer by profession, eg 4 nurses, 3 social workers etc.

5 - How many of those complaints were upheld?

6 - What is your view on Querulous paranoia, and how do you think it might relate to you, if at all?

7 - Have you obtained any formal qualifications in medicine, or law? If so, when, and from what University?

8 - What is your connection with the Church of Scientology, and are you a Scientologist?

9 - If you are not, why did the Church of Scientology present you with an award?

10 - Are you now having, or have you ever had, an affair with John Hemming MP?

11 - On how many occasions in your posts to the MAMA forum or elsewhere have you referred to Wikipedia in support of your arguments?

12 - Do you approve of the comment quoted at the top of this post, and do you support Brian Morgan's actions in posting it to Dr Pal's blog?

13 - Would you urge him to post more, similar, comments to her blog, or would you urge him to keep such vile fantasy to himself in future?

There are many more questions to be answered, and I'll be posting them in due course, but for the moment let's see what she can do with those.

Billy Seggars.

The Scribe said...

"Don't think it is any of your business"

You mean, German Uniforms worn at night in the north of England by Mr and Mrs Woolard is none of my business? Is that what you mean Fiona?

R Pal

The Scribe said...

Billy

Good to see you here. Many thanks for following the story. I am a great fan of your blog.

R Pal

The Scribe said...

"I am sure Ms Mellor couldn't give a shit and already knows Fiona had been manipulated"

Manipulated? Does Mellor manipulate Fiona as well?

RP

The Scribe said...

"Isn't your site really about protecting doctors, not about a support group"

I believe 90 percent of the website features the public's stories. 10 percent features doctors.

Mr Heathcote you have a question to answer - raised initially above

"I believe its something you created. So tell me what exactly is your gripe with me. I would quite like to know. I understand Mellor's vendetta but I don't understand yours. Outline it for me"

Anonymous said...

Good to see you here. Many thanks for following the story. I am a great fan of your blog.

Thanks :-)

As for following the story, I wouldn't miss this for the world.

The chance to watch MAMA at play - and showing off their natural pack instinct - is just too good to pass up.

Can't help noticing a lack of answers to certain questions from Mellor, though. Gone strangely quiet in here - I wonder why? :-)

Billy Seggars.

Paul Heathcote said...

Billy Seggers said:

"Incidentally, where are the MAMA muppets today?"

Nice to know you were concerned but I'm back now. I had a little bit of business to take care of yesterday with a couple of lads from the gym. Had my David Bailey hat on and my box brownie in hand ;) :).
Lady Penelope - everything went ok:) Tried to call you, will email you when I've had my bacon butty.

Anonymous said...

How bizarre, RP's "mate" is a computer techie, he's listed on her business and billy seggars is a techie, James Landon is a techie according to him on his blog, so are they all one and the same, there's a term for that isn't there, it's called sock puppets and BS (freudian slip!) JL and RP's partner are one and the same according to intel, ergo all this "I'm a big fan of yours" is moot isn't it?

Alter egos?

Anonymous said...

How bizarre, RP's "mate" is a computer techie, he's listed on her business and billy seggars is a techie...

"Techie" is a little non-specific, don't you think? Do you have any idea how many different fields within the IT industry could satisfy that term?

Let's see, off the top of my head, desktop support technicians, network engineers, operators, applications programmers, systems programmers, systems analysts, database adminstrators, web designers, web developers...

Go here and hover over the Microsoft Certifications menu item (hint: that means hold your mouse over it until some sub-options appear) to get some idea of just how many possible fields there are. And then add in Cisco certification or A+ certification or...

NOW do you see how varied the term "techie" is? And perhaps get a glimmer of why there so many of them around?

Just because MAMA muppets wouldn't know a byte if it bit 'em on the ass doesn't mean to say that the rest of the world is equally IT illiterate. The assumption that multiple people might be one and the same person because they all know something MAMA muppets don't is a prime example of that group's illogical though processes. The idea that they all might know DIFFERENT things that the MAMA muppets don't passes them by entirely.

It fits in well with complaining to Tucows Inc about a blogger blog, complaining to the GMC about a link and thinking you could get away with sending anonymous comments about lesbian breast feeling to Dr Pal's blog.

I don't expect you to be able to grasp any of that, so I'm not going say another word on the subject.

Meanwhile, I think you have some questions to answer over on the other thread.

Billy Seggars.

The Scribe said...

Billy

Take no notice of Mellor.

She only uses Vista to impress people. She doesn't actually understand computers and the internet really.

By the way, do email me when you have a minute, I would quite like to show you the full complaint from Mellor so that you can have a good laugh.

Mellor though fails to notice that the story was listed on about 100 or more websites. I also had a huge number of emails from techies who simply laughed at her over the domain name bungle piece. Some said they didn't know someone could be so utterly untechie. I have though told them not to expect much of housewives.

For avoidance of doubt, no one really knows who I know or who works on NHS Exposed.

No one really knows whether friends of mine work in Mellor's GP surgery. No one really knows a great deal. All Mellor knows is what is written on a defunct Ltd company. That is of course if that information is up to date.

As we speak not even my friends know about the behind the scenes workings of NHS Exposed. Heathcote and Arpad can speculate but they can only rely on what I have told them - which is a mere fragment :).

Even my own family have no idea who really is behind NHS Exposed :). Clearly though there must be more than one person behind it all because it requires coders, writers, editors etc.

Rita Pal
www.nhsexposed.com
www.nhsexposedblog.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

About me - Rita Pal

aboutme

I am now a full-time freelance writer, having previously spent 8 years working as a psychiatrist / doctor. I have been a regular columnist for Hepatitis USA magazine for several years, and am the owner / editor of the
NHS Exposed website (http://www.nhsexposed.com).

NHS Exposed is a commercial venture that began in the year 2000 and has grown from very small beginnings to include articles from doctors, patients and the public in general. The Times newspaper recently included NHS Exposed
in its list of the top 50 health websites, and it also achieved an Honourable Mention in the Communicator Awards.

As a doctor, I discovered that many patients sought information about their condition that was not readily available to them through the National Health
Service. I began to collect contact details for a wide range of support networks, together with copies of the often highly informative literature that they produced, and gave these to patients on request. This information
became so popular with both patients and my medical colleagues that I have created another website, Leaflet Link (http://www.leafletlink.com), as a resource for the public and medical professionals alike.

Aside from these, and other, online projects, I have written for a number of publications on various subjects ranging from animals to the politics of health care, and have learned to adapt my writing style to suit the publication. My aim is to expand my portfolio of written work, and I welcome the opportunity to write on as many new topics as possible.

I enjoy the research involved in preparing a new article, and, as a result,my enquiries are fast, efficient and detailed, enabling me to deliver the finished product within the deadline agreed with the editor.

If you would like to discuss a new project, or request samples of my past work, please do not hesitate to contact me at rita@ritapal.com.

Paul Heathcote said...

Don't you know drugs are bad for you.

Paul Heathcote said...

Say cheese

The Scribe said...

I believe Blogger is owned by google. Yet there are many people creating blogger :).

It does not quite establish how many people are really behind NHS Exposed does it? :)

Rita Pal

Paul Heathcote said...

Rita said:

"Mr Heathcote you have a question to answer - raised initially above"

Manners Rita.
Say please.

Anonymous said...

"I've got a pretty open comment policy (obviously), but if we're going to post comments, let's make them something other than name calling."

Not working is it?

The Scribe said...

Well, not in terms of the various personalities from msbp.com

Rita Pal

The Scribe said...

"Mr Heathcote you have a question to answer - raised initially above"

You either wish to reply or not. It is entirely your choice Mr Heathcote.

Rita Pal

Anonymous said...

The Scribe said...

Well, not in terms of the various personalities from msbp.com

Rita Pal

Monday, September 03, 2007 2:28:00 PM

Not for you to decide I would suggest, that's the moderator's job, and I do rather think you have been as guilty.

Maybe the moderator will call this thread to order.

Anonymous said...

"She only uses Vista to impress people. She doesn't actually understand computers and the internet really."

You will have to excuse me but I thought Vista was the new operating system for Windows. How does this equate to wanting to impress?

The Scribe said...

"Maybe the moderator will call this thread to order"

You mean times are getting difficult for those from msbp.com and now you wish the thread to be removed :).

Guilty of what? Of defending myself no doubt and mentioning Brian Morgan's pervy comments and asking questions that you can't answer!

"How does this equate to wanting to impress?"

There is always someone who wants the latest buggy whistles and bells. They are called early adopters. Many people are removing it in favour of XP.

Rita Pal
www.nhsexposed.com
www.nhsexposedblog.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

Yes that may well be the case, but how can you tell which Windows version someone hass?

Stephany said...

As a regular reader of this site, I find this and the other 200+ thread interesting to say the least, as I have written on my own blog.
I really cannot keep from making a comment here, that this is so off topic, you've all topped yourselves.
I find it impossible to remember what any point anyone is trying to make here, as it just goes and goes, from one thing to the next, now we have computer primers and commentary on cyberstalking.
I suppose it pertains to Mellor, Child Abuse, Scientology,free speech, ethics, freedom to link to blogs, prison terms, and yes breast fondling. That's enough to keep us all busy going off topic and forget the reason for posting at all. What was it again?
If most people here have a forum or blog to post their thoughts and comments why are you doing it all here?
End of readers-rant-thanks.
(I moderate comments, FYI)

Anonymous said...

I don't think it's an off topic question, about how anyone can see whether someone has Windows Vista or not? In fact in relation to linking and downloading, and related privacy matters it's highly apposite actually.

I don't want anyone knowing what Windows system I am using, not primarly because of that, but what else might they be looking at?

So would whoever it is (Dr Pal?) please tell us how they know this person (Mellor?) is using Vista?

Anonymous said...

How do you know how many times Mr Heathcote googled the name James Landon?

How do you know about Mr Heathcote's "modem reset?"



Friday, August 31, 2007
Evening All
Greetings gentle readers, James Landon here.

As some of you will know, Rita's busy preparing to wipe the floor with the GMC's backside, so she's asked me to pop in once in a while and keep the blog aired for her - you know, open the curtains, turn the lights on, water Brian Morgan, that kind of thing.

Natch, I'm quite happy to oblige, but I'm not very well up on blogging, so apologies in advance if I ball it up. No doubt I'll get the hang of it eventually, and I'm sure I can rely on regular readers to point out where I'm going wrong. And, speaking of regulars, I'm glad to see the modem reset worked out for you, Paul!

Now, not having a medically trained bone in my body, I don't feel qualified to comment on the NHS from a medical perspective (must be a familiar feeling for our visitors from MAMA). But I have ample experience of the NHS as an end-user, and that's probably the angle I'll be taking in my posts.

The news is awash with NHS-related articles, and many of them deserve a comment or two from the patient's point of view. For example, the Daily Record (and many other papers, I just liked the DR headline) are reporting that the NHS IS BACK IN THE BLACK, and will have almost £1billion stuffed down its corporate knickers by spring.

I'm sure that will come as great comfort to the many patients who have turned blue while waiting for medical care that they, as tax payers, have already shelled out for. Apparently, Gordon Brown is planning to spend the dosh on combating MRSA and improving access to GP surgeries.

Admirable objectives, perhaps, but wasn't it this government, of which GB has been an integral part since it came to power, who presided over the cause of the chaos in GP surgeries in the first place? Still, it's nice to know that we can expect to find the Prime Minister trotting around hospitals with a bucket, mop, a pair of yellow Marigolds and a bottle of disinfectant - after all, someone's got to, and soon!

Naturally, it would be better to employ proper cleaners, but since the article also points out that 22 NHS Trusts still have multimillion-pound deficits, that's probably not viable. Besides, GB is a versatile chap; he's under the delusion that he can be a successful Prime Minister, why shouldn't he be a cleaner in his spare time?

Much as the mental image fills me with glee, I can't see it happening, just as I have my doubts about this quote from GB in the article: "People do understand the health service is getting better."

No, buddy, we don't. Better is a relative term - good, progressing to excellent is one thing, but a dibolical shambles inching upward towards unacceptable is something else entirely. The NHS is in a mess, and has been for a long time. Your government can't be held responsible for all of it. But it can, quite rightly, be held responsible for the uncontrolled tailspin that the NHS has experienced in recent years.

Flannel about "getting better" won't do. Start with an apology for seriously screwing it up in the first place, and then - maybe, if we think you're sincere - we might be prepared to listed to how you're going to fix it. I'm not promising anything, mind, because frankly I don't think you have the will or the ability to do anything about the mess you've made. But before we get to that point you have to admit that you - not your inept predecessor, or previous governments, but YOU - have made a godawful cockup.

Sadly, I can't imagine GB, or any politician, coming clean like that, so while I'm waiting, I'll just go back to commenting on the very public decline and fall of what used to be one of the world's most impressive institutions.

James Landon.
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Anonymous said...

We may not be computer literate (euphamism for hacking skills), albeit we have been accused of doing it, however we all know people who are.

Watching you watching us - actually that should read watching you watching us which is being watched by those that can do something about it.

Caught oursleves some Marlin on this expidition.

Anonymous said...

Who is James Landon?

Anonymous said...

That bloke off Little House on the PRIORY (is it be a bird, a plane or is it Billy Seggars AKA - NO It's super RP gopher,live in lover, hacker, company secetary, computer shop owner).

The Scribe said...

:) What a complicated web we weave.

No one I know owns a computer shop.

I am sure Bill will be amused by the above.

Rita Pal
www.nhsexposed.com

Anonymous said...
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Anonymous said...

He your hacking friend then? Just in case I shall pass the address and details on - liar.

Anonymous said...

http://www.accessplace.com/computer-repair/lancashire/manchester.htm


Or did you lie to companies house - which one is it Dr Pal, have you lied on this blog (not for the first time) or have you submitted a fraudulant registration to Companies House?

Anonymous said...

And doesn't Billy Seggars repair computers? Beyond coincidence one might think, circumstantial evidence stacking up , doesn't James Landon have the same job.

Dr Pal you allege to be a psychiatrist, didn't you spot the multiple personality disorder in the company secretary that you claim to know nothing about???

Hmmmm!

Anonymous said...

Company was wound down was it really, guess you forgot to tell companies house, hey you could hack in and alter all the records, maybe not, eh, could go to prison for that, or indeed accessing personal computers!

Anonymous said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
The Scribe said...

You are getting desperate :). That is the problem with dealing with old data. The above isnt a computer shop :).

No one hacks anything. Its average data on any website logs but some people are too stupid to note it.

In any case Mellor, you are indeed getting very very desperate now aren't you.

CF11 6LF for instance is the post code for Brian Morgan who is the cyberstalker on nhsexposedblog.blogspot.com

You can take me to court on the above but I have the messages and so do the police.

Dr Rita Pal
www.nhsexposed.com
www.nhsexposedblog.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

Dr Pal really, you said you didn't know anyone who "did computers" your company secretary, has written all over the worldwide web that this is what he does, repair computers, how does the above statement tally with your lies, or are you saying you just picked a secretary at random?

He's quite good at spybot as well ... hacking is a serious offence.

How does your website mate Landon (aka all the above) know if Mr Heathcote's modem has reset?

Billy Seggars also claims to repair computers.

Come on Rita you don't really think everyone's that stupid, you can fool some of the people some of the time etc ...

The Scribe said...

NB So if any of the people living at the above addresses are found stabbed to death like Dr Anyetei in London then we will know who to blame don't we Ms Mellor/ Mr Morgan (and yes, we have tracked you searching for the above terms)

I wondered if any of you would prefer counselling.

Rita Pal
www.nhsexposed.com
www.nhsexposedblog.blogspot.com

The Scribe said...

"Company was wound down"

It is called dormant :)

"you didn't know anyone who "did computers"

Actually, Ms Mellor what I said was "No one I know owns a computer shop"

Not getting your facts right again are we :)

Rita Pal
www.nhsexposed.com
www.nhsexposedblog.blogspot.com

The Scribe said...

"could go to prison for that, or indeed accessing personal computers!"

A bit like Penny Mellor and Doctors.net.uk :)

I don't know how to hack not like your friends Ms Mellor. It is all from our logs :). Boy the police would laugh at you.

Now if all of you oddballs would excuse me, I am just off to do a spot of shopping.

Rita Pal
www.nhsexposed.com
www.nhsexposedblog.blogspot.com

The Scribe said...

Just to confirm

Brian Morgan Freelance Journalist and NUJ Member is a cyberstalker. Shall we place the rest of your disgusting postings up here Brian right with your IP address.

Rita Pal
www.nhsexposedblog.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

You're mssing the point you do know somebody who is computer literate you're a liar and his place is still up and running according to who is. Stop prevaricating you lied - you do know somebody who is very computer literate and we can make phone calls too you know, people become very cooperative if their business won't be affected by what evidence they have for the police.


Another lie the business is up and running and at the same address. Semantics what I call it, the guy, your mate runs a business that relates to computers.

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Anonymous said...

NB So if any of the people living at the above addresses are found stabbed to death like Dr Anyetei in London then we will know who to blame don't we Ms Mellor/ Mr Morgan (and yes, we have tracked you searching for the above terms)

I wondered if any of you would prefer counselling.

Rita Pal
www.nhsexposed.com
www.nhsexposedblog.blogspot.com

Excuse me?

Now that is harrassment and defamation.

Anonymous said...

One more thing Dr Pal if you are aware that people have googled the appalling murder of an innocent woman and who they are, would you say that falls into your "cyberstalking" theory?

Furthermore how do you know what people are looking at and who they are?

Google alerts only allow for news items or mentions on blogs etc to be flagged there is no tracking device, so how do you know?

Anonymous said...

http://billyseggars.blogspot.com/2007/04/billy-seggars-signing-in.html


"Has the world gone mad? You bet it has, and I'll be documenting its descent into insanity from the perspective of a 36-year-old computer tech on these very pages. I don't expect there to be any shortage of material, so watch this space."

Brian Morgan said...

I'm Brian Morgan, the freelance journalist referred to. Comments here have been brought to my attention. Claims here and elsewhere that I sent obscene emails and messages to Dr Rita Pal are completely untrue. This is ancillary to a campaign of internet harassment by this doctor which is now the subject of a complaint to the General Medical Council, not in respect of what she says about myself. It's about her attacks on vulnerable other people. She is a psychiatrist, she should know better. She brings the medical profession into disrepute.

I don't care a fig what this doctor says about me, her long track record is clear enough for those who put her name in on a Google search. She linked me with the murder of Dr Anyetei. My name is clean and I've put up with much worse during my past media investigations. It's not the first time that a doctor and others I've investigated have promoted false claims about my morality - I made a TV programme exposing one such attempt to undermine my reputation by an eminent paediatrician where false allegations that my two children had been taken into care were lodged with an NHS trust.

The scurrilous purpose of this was to halt my investigations into dangerous and unethical research on children, and because I did not know what had been said it did halt my inquiries for a while. Now the General Medical Council is finally investigating this doctor's research methods.

There is adequate documentary evidence that she (with associates) pursues vulnerable people through the internet and causes them mental anguish. She even boasts about it on her own blogs.

Furthermore, one of her associates has posted here under the pseudonym Billy Seggars.

His identity is known courtesy of Google who provided this information to me, and he is also known to be the former operator of a pornographic website.

I will not embarrass readers by putting up its link, but details have been posted elsewhere for those of a sterner disposition.

http://davidsouthallexposed.blogspot.com/2008/06/billy-seggars-aka-rob-ashburn-co.html

Brian Morgan said...

Further to the false claims made about me by Ms/Miss Rita Pal (can't use the medical title anymore as she is no longer registered with the General Medical Council - for administrative reasons - and she doesn't have a higher academic degree) she has also claimed that my union the NUJ does not stand by me. A further fabricated claim, they have said nothing of the sort.

Brian Morgan said...

I see the real suspect in the killing of Dr Anyetei, not the factitious (as in munchausen's by proxy allegations) ones suggested by former registered doctor Rita Pal, is on trial.

Perhaps Ms Rita Pal will tell us why she is no longer registered with the General Medical Council?